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T O P I C R E V I E WMaelstromThis is to anyone who has what is considered difficult, frustrating or just downright horrible aspects in their chart!How do they effect your life and what coping methods do you have? ------------------"This Pisces won't run when things get tough nor will they sit there and do nothing. Leo rising is the Fire that is lit in Pisces, getting this Water sign boiling"Read more: http://www.serendipity-astrolovers.comcharlieSun sq Pluto (cancer 11h-libra 2h)Moon sq Pluto cap 5hSun opposite moon Mercury sq Pluto cancer 11hA bloody Leo Saturn 11hVenus sits right on 11h/12h as well and everything you can read about Venus in the twelfth house is me. HELP!!!!!FaithMy life changed for the better after I learned how to shut my mind off. The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle helped me.I have a fixed t-square, a mutable t-square, and a cardinal t-square.StarlightSmileSupremeActually astrology has really helped me see my problems in life. I used to drink myself to oblivion in my mid teens, then I saw my natal chart for the first time and read about how I have an almost exact opposition between Moon and Neptune and what it means. It helped me realize that could be a real danger for me since it involves houses 2 and 8. It has helped me be aware of really super destructive patterns and I can see trines and sextiles as a way to deal with the stressful aspects. It's like finding suggestions on how to cope. Read up on the positive aspects in the chart, work on those qualities in your life, and try to avoid what you read about the negative aspects. Like with the opposition between Moon and Neptune, I have to be cautious on a lot of different levels about a lot of things but at least I realize it. I also have a square between Saturn and Venus and it's not as easy to work with as the one between the moon and old Nep. That's the toughest one I have, Saturn square Venus because I am very aloof and it's ingrained in my personality since Venus rules my ascendant. Just find ways to work with what you have. Part of dealing with the square is accepting what cannot be changed. hannaramaaOh wow Starlight - I sometimes binge drink. I have Moon trine Neptune!I have a horrible Moon opposition Pluto, and Sun and Mercury square Saturn and Neptune. I HATE those last two aspects more than anything in my chart. I feel stupid and crazy a lot of the time, I have intense emotions and don't know how to really communicate where they came from. I don't see myself clearly, and if I don't see myself clearly then how can I see other people? My opinions are easily influenced, try as I might and stubborn as I am. I'm a slow learner. Blah blah blah.Sorry, just glad I had an outlet for all that crappy stuff.StarlightSmileSupremeI've had those emotional moments with Moon opp Neppy as well, Hanna. Those moon opps can really affect the emotions, heh.lalalindaMoon(5) square Uranus(8)This is an aspect of circumstanceoutside events effect me personallyMy actions don't necessarily set this aspect in motion but none the less they are triggered.------------------"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.” Linda Goodman 1925-1995Maelstrom quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa:Oh wow Starlight - I sometimes binge drink. I have Moon trine Neptune!I have a horrible Moon opposition Pluto, and Sun and Mercury square Saturn and Neptune. I HATE those last two aspects more than anything in my chart. I feel stupid and crazy a lot of the time, I have intense emotions and don't know how to really communicate where they came from. I don't see myself clearly, and if I don't see myself clearly then how can I see other people? My opinions are easily influenced, try as I might and stubborn as I am. I'm a slow learner. Blah blah blah.Sorry, just glad I had an outlet for all that crappy stuff.(((Hugs))) I have my Sun opposite Saturn which I know has a very similar affect to the square. It's a double whammy as my Mars is conjunct the Sun (in the 8th house) and both are opposite Saturn. That's alot of repressed energy! I very much understand what you mean about intense emotions, for me I always find it hard to get the balance between being too forceful and not forceful enough.I feel those aspects most, it's like a constant inner tension which just doesnt let up. Alot of anxiety, nail biting etc etc. I do alot of excercise and listen to music to try and channel the energy but I have to say it doesnt always work. I also have Sun square Neptune, it's funny because apart from the typical teenage partying/binge drinking, which is pretty much a rite of passage in the UK I really am not big on alcohol or any other type of narcotic. That's not me being "holier then thou" it's just a feeling I always had that if I were to dabble in drugs or whatever (as many of my friends did) the effects on me could be devastating."I don't see myself clearly, and if I don't see myself clearly then how can I see other people?"What can I say? except I know exactly where you're coming from. I have Leo Rising (Leo decan!!!) conjunct Jupiter which doesnt sit well with my 8th house Pisces sun. I feel I am literally in two parts at times. My chart looks like a balancing act, which it is. It is a comfort to hear from others who have similar experiences, even though I know it's hard for you. Thank you for sharing hannaramaa Maelstrom quote:Originally posted by Faith:My life changed for the better after I learned how to shut my mind off. The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle helped me.I have a fixed t-square, a mutable t-square, and a cardinal t-square.The Power of Now is on my "to read" list I tried to read it once when I was younger but just couldn't get into it...I think it may be time to try again Maelstrom quote:Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:Actually astrology has really helped me see my problems in life. I used to drink myself to oblivion in my mid teens, then I saw my natal chart for the first time and read about how I have an almost exact opposition between Moon and Neptune and what it means. It helped me realize that could be a real danger for me since it involves houses 2 and 8. It has helped me be aware of really super destructive patterns and I can see trines and sextiles as a way to deal with the stressful aspects. It's like finding suggestions on how to cope. Read up on the positive aspects in the chart, work on those qualities in your life, and try to avoid what you read about the negative aspects. Like with the opposition between Moon and Neptune, I have to be cautious on a lot of different levels about a lot of things but at least I realize it. I also have a square between Saturn and Venus and it's not as easy to work with as the one between the moon and old Nep. That's the toughest one I have, Saturn square Venus because I am very aloof and it's ingrained in my personality since Venus rules my ascendant. Just find ways to work with what you have. Part of dealing with the square is accepting what cannot be changed. Hey, we both have 2nd and 8th house oppositions, just different planets involved "Read up on the positive aspects in the chart, work on those qualities in your life, and try to avoid what you read about the negative aspects."Sound advice, and to be honest I am going to make a concerted effort to do so. I am always naturally drawn to the darker/negative descriptions which is a bad habit, particularly when I completely ignore the positive. I do have quite a few trines and sextiles, particularly my moon which is fairly well aspected. I work in the caring field and my moon (which is conjunct the MC) supports and enhances that particular career direction. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, StarlightSmileSupreme!bridgetostars23I guess having my sun in the 12th house has been a little difficult but I'm sure can be rewarding.Scorpio moon conjunct pluto has been intense as well as scorpio venus. (Jealous, intense.)Gemini Chiron in retrograde in 5th house- very hard time expressing my true self and communicating my feelings and my passion and it bothers me constantly and it opposes mercury.....I often make up for it my being sarcastic or joking around a lotStarlightSmileSupreme quote:Originally posted by Maelstrom: Hey, we both have 2nd and 8th house oppositions, just different planets involved "Read up on the positive aspects in the chart, work on those qualities in your life, and try to avoid what you read about the negative aspects."Sound advice, and to be honest I am going to make a concerted effort to do so. I am always naturally drawn to the darker/negative descriptions which is a bad habit, particularly when I completely ignore the positive. I do have quite a few trines and sextiles, particularly my moon which is fairly well aspected. I work in the caring field and my moon (which is conjunct the MC) supports and enhances that particular career direction. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, StarlightSmileSupreme!You're welcome, Maelstrom, anytime! I have sun aspect to Saturn as well, only it's a trine and it's close in aspect, under two degrees but separating which weakens it just a bit. I do feel that Saturnine presence in my life. It sort of represses the energy of the sun and since it's not that powerful in my chart anyway, I have my share of difficulties and burdens. Saturn is in house 8 while sun is in 11 conjunct cusp of 12.bridgetostars23I would also add sun conjunct neptune (capricorn 12th house) because it has been very hard to live in reality and be practical for me. I am a recovering addict/alcoholic and if I'm not careful can escape from life with anything. I know this aspect has great spiritual potential with it though.peachbeigebluei have a fixed tsquare (sun square moon & pluto. pluto opp moon) venus conjunct chiron opp saturn/uranus/neptune. i liked marianne williamson - return to love. i listened to the audiobook and have it saved on my phone. whenever i'm down or feel off i try to listen to it. it calms me down Padre35Uranus squaring Mercury is probably my most difficult placement to deal with most of the time.Simply apply discipline and trying to see things from a different pov sufficesbrightwhitesRight now, my Chiron in h.11 is giving me problems keeping friends.But I have two fixed t-squares(Taurus sun opp Scorp Moon, Aqua Saturn sq both; Taurus venus opp Scorp Pluto, Aqua Saturn sq both). I easily get depression and feel bad about myself, but I have started practicing Buddhism, and it's really helped how I view and live life.FataleMoon in cancer square my Venus in aries. Both very strong in my personality. I long for a caring, attentive, & loving partner... but I'm always falling for the assholes and get extremely heartbroken. I always want what I cant have, and it leaves me devastated. When I do get a "nice guy" my aries venus gets bored and loses interest. Ughhh..Venus square Neptune: I'm delusional when I fall for somebody. I create a fairytale image of them & disregard all the ****** qualities that I should NOT put up with. Seems like I always settle for less, ugh!GeekySun - Virgo (practical, modest, detailed)Asc - Leo (wants to be center of attention, showy)Moon - Sag (restless, needs constant excitement)Merc - Leo (stubbornness, know it all, avoids the details, wants to take action)Venus - Scorpio (intense, all or nothing, falls deeply in love, scares people away)Mars - Libra (indecisive, passive aggressive, needs fairness)OH MY GAWD!! I am a walking contradiction. How do I cope? I own that sh!t. I am not offended to be called "crazy" or "intense"... whatever. Don't like me? Move along. I quit trying to be balanced long ago. Instead, I embrace my quirks. Some days I am indecisive and I procrastinate because I am too busy over-analyzing every evil little detail. Other days, I jump quickly into "let's get sh!t done" mode. Some days I act a little intense. My love comes home from work and hugs me and I might cry because I missed him. Other days, I am aloof and in my own world. Occasionally, I still freak out over stupid stuff because of that Venus in Scorpio placement. For example, if my love is quiet, I assume he is hiding something... it's ridiculous. Other days, my Virgo logic kicks in and I analyze all of the data and can see I am overreacting and jumping to silly conclusions.My personality is very bipolar. I just deal with it and try not to worry about appearing unbalanced to more stable people. ------------------"Most people would rather be sheep and have company than stand out on their own with antlers on." — Tori AmosStacyLewis quote:Originally posted by Maelstrom:This is to anyone who has what is considered difficult, frustrating or just downright horrible aspects in their chart!How do they effect your life and what coping methods do you have? I have some pretty nasty aspects to my mars. I really don't consider them flaws though, because the rest of my chart is such that really I NEED the few "bad" aspects I do have otherwise I'd be a perpetual victim.Those aspects are some of the only things at my disposal that give me the ability to hold my own and fight back when necessary. So as such I don't consider them negative. In general I think I cope with them pretty well too, I think I have them under control and don't let myself get as out of control when I'm in a state of anger as a lot of other people do. It's a lot of energy to have at my disposal but it's well-harnessed energy.dadeviJupiter square PlutoSaturn in the fifth house(Sagittarius)conjunct venus and mercury(retrograde)The Jupiter square Pluto aspect has had me questioning established religions ever since I read the entire Bible for myself. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable with dogma, big churches with stained glass, or religious teachers who claim to know the only way to salvation, etc. ad nauseam.This is not a bad thing. In my rejection of dogma, I'm realizing that the universal basics taught in religions, love for everyone, kindness, compassion, is way more important than endless debate about who created everything.Saturn conjunct venus and mercury is frustrating, even more so in my house of fun. I am not good at quick communication. It seems I always leave something out, or I don't completely understand the subject matter, or I come across the wrong way. The only way I can get past this, is to take my time speaking, and be as knowledgable as possible. Saturn is a hard task master. It seems I have to put in a lot of effort to get my point across, but the reward is that I'm usually the best prepared person in the room.As for Saturn conjunct venus, I seem to be attracting people who are older than me, who want to dominate, or both. I don't mind dating older women, but this seriously clashes with my libra moon and mars craving equality. I have been unable to find someone who treats me as a true equal in a relationship. It seems like all the relationships I've been in the past have been about learning, rather than cementing the actual relationship, if that makes any sense. It feels like they've all been practice for a great one. Again, Saturn is hard at work!
How do they effect your life and what coping methods do you have?
------------------"This Pisces won't run when things get tough nor will they sit there and do nothing. Leo rising is the Fire that is lit in Pisces, getting this Water sign boiling"
Read more: http://www.serendipity-astrolovers.com
Venus sits right on 11h/12h as well and everything you can read about Venus in the twelfth house is me.
HELP!!!!!
I have a fixed t-square, a mutable t-square, and a cardinal t-square.
I also have a square between Saturn and Venus and it's not as easy to work with as the one between the moon and old Nep. That's the toughest one I have, Saturn square Venus because I am very aloof and it's ingrained in my personality since Venus rules my ascendant. Just find ways to work with what you have. Part of dealing with the square is accepting what cannot be changed.
I have a horrible Moon opposition Pluto, and Sun and Mercury square Saturn and Neptune. I HATE those last two aspects more than anything in my chart. I feel stupid and crazy a lot of the time, I have intense emotions and don't know how to really communicate where they came from. I don't see myself clearly, and if I don't see myself clearly then how can I see other people? My opinions are easily influenced, try as I might and stubborn as I am. I'm a slow learner. Blah blah blah.
Sorry, just glad I had an outlet for all that crappy stuff.
This is an aspect of circumstanceoutside events effect me personallyMy actions don't necessarily set this aspect in motion but none the less they are triggered.
------------------"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.” Linda Goodman 1925-1995
quote:Originally posted by hannaramaa:Oh wow Starlight - I sometimes binge drink. I have Moon trine Neptune!I have a horrible Moon opposition Pluto, and Sun and Mercury square Saturn and Neptune. I HATE those last two aspects more than anything in my chart. I feel stupid and crazy a lot of the time, I have intense emotions and don't know how to really communicate where they came from. I don't see myself clearly, and if I don't see myself clearly then how can I see other people? My opinions are easily influenced, try as I might and stubborn as I am. I'm a slow learner. Blah blah blah.Sorry, just glad I had an outlet for all that crappy stuff.
(((Hugs))) I have my Sun opposite Saturn which I know has a very similar affect to the square. It's a double whammy as my Mars is conjunct the Sun (in the 8th house) and both are opposite Saturn. That's alot of repressed energy! I very much understand what you mean about intense emotions, for me I always find it hard to get the balance between being too forceful and not forceful enough.
I feel those aspects most, it's like a constant inner tension which just doesnt let up. Alot of anxiety, nail biting etc etc. I do alot of excercise and listen to music to try and channel the energy but I have to say it doesnt always work. I also have Sun square Neptune, it's funny because apart from the typical teenage partying/binge drinking, which is pretty much a rite of passage in the UK I really am not big on alcohol or any other type of narcotic. That's not me being "holier then thou" it's just a feeling I always had that if I were to dabble in drugs or whatever (as many of my friends did) the effects on me could be devastating.
"I don't see myself clearly, and if I don't see myself clearly then how can I see other people?"
What can I say? except I know exactly where you're coming from. I have Leo Rising (Leo decan!!!) conjunct Jupiter which doesnt sit well with my 8th house Pisces sun. I feel I am literally in two parts at times. My chart looks like a balancing act, which it is. It is a comfort to hear from others who have similar experiences, even though I know it's hard for you. Thank you for sharing hannaramaa
quote:Originally posted by Faith:My life changed for the better after I learned how to shut my mind off. The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle helped me.I have a fixed t-square, a mutable t-square, and a cardinal t-square.
The Power of Now is on my "to read" list I tried to read it once when I was younger but just couldn't get into it...I think it may be time to try again
quote:Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:Actually astrology has really helped me see my problems in life. I used to drink myself to oblivion in my mid teens, then I saw my natal chart for the first time and read about how I have an almost exact opposition between Moon and Neptune and what it means. It helped me realize that could be a real danger for me since it involves houses 2 and 8. It has helped me be aware of really super destructive patterns and I can see trines and sextiles as a way to deal with the stressful aspects. It's like finding suggestions on how to cope. Read up on the positive aspects in the chart, work on those qualities in your life, and try to avoid what you read about the negative aspects. Like with the opposition between Moon and Neptune, I have to be cautious on a lot of different levels about a lot of things but at least I realize it. I also have a square between Saturn and Venus and it's not as easy to work with as the one between the moon and old Nep. That's the toughest one I have, Saturn square Venus because I am very aloof and it's ingrained in my personality since Venus rules my ascendant. Just find ways to work with what you have. Part of dealing with the square is accepting what cannot be changed.
Hey, we both have 2nd and 8th house oppositions, just different planets involved
"Read up on the positive aspects in the chart, work on those qualities in your life, and try to avoid what you read about the negative aspects."
Sound advice, and to be honest I am going to make a concerted effort to do so. I am always naturally drawn to the darker/negative descriptions which is a bad habit, particularly when I completely ignore the positive. I do have quite a few trines and sextiles, particularly my moon which is fairly well aspected. I work in the caring field and my moon (which is conjunct the MC) supports and enhances that particular career direction.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, StarlightSmileSupreme!
quote:Originally posted by Maelstrom: Hey, we both have 2nd and 8th house oppositions, just different planets involved "Read up on the positive aspects in the chart, work on those qualities in your life, and try to avoid what you read about the negative aspects."Sound advice, and to be honest I am going to make a concerted effort to do so. I am always naturally drawn to the darker/negative descriptions which is a bad habit, particularly when I completely ignore the positive. I do have quite a few trines and sextiles, particularly my moon which is fairly well aspected. I work in the caring field and my moon (which is conjunct the MC) supports and enhances that particular career direction. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, StarlightSmileSupreme!
You're welcome, Maelstrom, anytime! I have sun aspect to Saturn as well, only it's a trine and it's close in aspect, under two degrees but separating which weakens it just a bit. I do feel that Saturnine presence in my life. It sort of represses the energy of the sun and since it's not that powerful in my chart anyway, I have my share of difficulties and burdens. Saturn is in house 8 while sun is in 11 conjunct cusp of 12.
i liked marianne williamson - return to love. i listened to the audiobook and have it saved on my phone. whenever i'm down or feel off i try to listen to it. it calms me down
Simply apply discipline and trying to see things from a different pov suffices
But I have two fixed t-squares(Taurus sun opp Scorp Moon, Aqua Saturn sq both; Taurus venus opp Scorp Pluto, Aqua Saturn sq both). I easily get depression and feel bad about myself, but I have started practicing Buddhism, and it's really helped how I view and live life.
Venus square Neptune: I'm delusional when I fall for somebody. I create a fairytale image of them & disregard all the ****** qualities that I should NOT put up with. Seems like I always settle for less, ugh!
Asc - Leo (wants to be center of attention, showy)
Moon - Sag (restless, needs constant excitement)
Merc - Leo (stubbornness, know it all, avoids the details, wants to take action)
Venus - Scorpio (intense, all or nothing, falls deeply in love, scares people away)
Mars - Libra (indecisive, passive aggressive, needs fairness)
OH MY GAWD!! I am a walking contradiction. How do I cope? I own that sh!t. I am not offended to be called "crazy" or "intense"... whatever. Don't like me? Move along. I quit trying to be balanced long ago.
Instead, I embrace my quirks. Some days I am indecisive and I procrastinate because I am too busy over-analyzing every evil little detail. Other days, I jump quickly into "let's get sh!t done" mode.
Some days I act a little intense. My love comes home from work and hugs me and I might cry because I missed him. Other days, I am aloof and in my own world.
Occasionally, I still freak out over stupid stuff because of that Venus in Scorpio placement. For example, if my love is quiet, I assume he is hiding something... it's ridiculous. Other days, my Virgo logic kicks in and I analyze all of the data and can see I am overreacting and jumping to silly conclusions.
My personality is very bipolar. I just deal with it and try not to worry about appearing unbalanced to more stable people.
------------------"Most people would rather be sheep and have company than stand out on their own with antlers on." — Tori Amos
quote:Originally posted by Maelstrom:This is to anyone who has what is considered difficult, frustrating or just downright horrible aspects in their chart!How do they effect your life and what coping methods do you have?
I have some pretty nasty aspects to my mars. I really don't consider them flaws though, because the rest of my chart is such that really I NEED the few "bad" aspects I do have otherwise I'd be a perpetual victim.
Those aspects are some of the only things at my disposal that give me the ability to hold my own and fight back when necessary. So as such I don't consider them negative. In general I think I cope with them pretty well too, I think I have them under control and don't let myself get as out of control when I'm in a state of anger as a lot of other people do. It's a lot of energy to have at my disposal but it's well-harnessed energy.
The Jupiter square Pluto aspect has had me questioning established religions ever since I read the entire Bible for myself. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable with dogma, big churches with stained glass, or religious teachers who claim to know the only way to salvation, etc. ad nauseam.
This is not a bad thing. In my rejection of dogma, I'm realizing that the universal basics taught in religions, love for everyone, kindness, compassion, is way more important than endless debate about who created everything.
Saturn conjunct venus and mercury is frustrating, even more so in my house of fun. I am not good at quick communication. It seems I always leave something out, or I don't completely understand the subject matter, or I come across the wrong way. The only way I can get past this, is to take my time speaking, and be as knowledgable as possible. Saturn is a hard task master. It seems I have to put in a lot of effort to get my point across, but the reward is that I'm usually the best prepared person in the room.
As for Saturn conjunct venus, I seem to be attracting people who are older than me, who want to dominate, or both. I don't mind dating older women, but this seriously clashes with my libra moon and mars craving equality. I have been unable to find someone who treats me as a true equal in a relationship. It seems like all the relationships I've been in the past have been about learning, rather than cementing the actual relationship, if that makes any sense. It feels like they've all been practice for a great one. Again, Saturn is hard at work!
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